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[SAM]

Ahh, if the church were closed to all sinners, it would be an empty place.

However, I do agree with you that they turn a blind eye to disciplinary action when they see members deliberately walking in the direction of disobedience to God's word.

LadyT - continuing to pray with you for your circumstances. Silence is golden ... and taking a step back and allowing God to do the work in your circumstances is a good approach. He will eventually work it out, but be prepared for it to take some time.

[ladyt]

Yes SAM,

I agree. Her dad's own family is wondering why he is letting her do whaterver and dress however. I pray for us all and I still get to see him by visitng his paternal grandmother. I hope that is ok.

Prayer changes things and I am prepared to wait as long as it takes. I'm am standing on God's promises for my dau and my son. My grandson has no say right now and it does hurt but at least I still get to see him once a week.

Just keep praying for us. Thanks so much.

[km]

SAM
My very point was that an essential component of a healthy church is a good system of disciplining wayward members - but that exceedingly few churches seem to take that facet appropriately seriously.

[SAM]

I know, KM. I was agreeing with you.

Reading a book this week by Joseph Stowell called The Trouble with Jesus. It's about how our society is slowing diluting His message to make people feel "included". Making Him fit into this neat little package that is comfortable. And, in order to make people feel included, His words must be spun as not having said what the Bible affirms He said. A one-size-fits all Jesus must be tolerant of everyone, judgmental toward none, kind but not analytical, and loving but not disciplining.


Dear LadyT -
I want to remind you of Jesus' words when you are feeling the weight and sting of your ex-husband's and daughter's hatred thrown your way -

Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kings of evil against you because of Me.
Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

[ladyt]

Yes Matt 5:11-12 is a reminder and has soothe my spirit. Also John 15:21 & 16:3

21 But all these things they will do to you on account of my name,because they do not know him who sent me.
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3 And they will do these things because they have not known the Father, nor me.

Thanks God for his Words and for those who carry others burdens in their hearts.

I agree that the church has become relaxed in its ways when it comes to discipline in the church. We recently had a woman to call me out of the church into the hallway all because I sat in a seat that she normally sits in. I reported her and they said they would contact her but they never did. She was ready to beat me to a pulp and cursing me at he same time. For two weeks they pretended that they could not find her although I was asked to point her out. I guess after finding out that she tithes...it was swept under the rug just like our former pastor sleeping with various women and not his wife. God has to judge America as he did S & G.

[resecured]

ladyT,

I was wondering about the other grandparents and the father of the baby. If they know that the situation is not good for the baby, would they vie for custody? Wouldn't there be a record of reports on her failure to care for him properly? Seems that would give them an opportunity to get custody. It's good that you are able to see the little guy when he is over at their house. Know that means alot to you.

I just wonder about the reason that your ex is "helping" your daughter. I wonder if the fact that she is receiving money in Oct. is the reason. Should be interesting to see what happens when she has to deal with him over money, her money.

Take care. I am praying for you to continue "keeping strong". Stay positive, that really ticks satan off.

-RJ-

[ladyt]

I did mention to them about filing for custody. Its difficult these days to take a baby from its mother here in Florida. She has been reported for neglect of feeding to bumping his head on doors at church so they just send someone once a week to visit them for an hr. They know she switches his formula at will.

His paternal grands have 3 other children, 10, 12 and 15 and cannot afford a little one but they do the best they can when he's with them. The father of the baby is in school and has yet to be made to pay child support but his family buys clothes, formula and diapers which is a blessing.

Her dad still has a one bedroom apt that the 3 of them are in, while I still have a 3 bedroom home and both baby and dau have their own room filled with all of their things. He will be surprised when we go to court that he will not be awarded child support. In my answer to the court I stated that this action was due to vindictiveness, resentment and his awareness of our dau's settlement. I backed up my statement with emails to/from him.

Satan is busy and I refused to get down in the dumps about Satan's work because if God allowed it, He must have a plan. :-0

[resecured]

That was a very smart move to report the emails. She might see a different side to her dad when he realizes a few things.

It will be interesting to see what God does have in mind.

Still praying.

-RJ-

[ladyt]

Yes, it will be interesting. Good news that I got today was the prosecutor is dismissing the domestic violence charge against my son since they could not get in touch with my daughter. They kept leaving messages and she would not return their call.

I have a stack of her mail I will bring to church with me tonight and give to her or her dad. Some of it looks important.

I leave tomorrow for the Cove in NC for a women's retreat with a group from my church. I'm excited!

[resecured]

Oh, how wonderful for your son!!!!!! I know that is such a big relief.

The Cove? How marvelous! That area will make you just sigh with contentment. The scenery is so beautiful around there. Just relax and dwell on nothing negative, only positive. You deserve this getaway, ladyT!!!!!!

I've never been but have heard only wonderful comments. Let me know how it goes, ok? I may need a getaway myself.

Have fun! Will pray for safe traveling and great weather.

-RJ-

[SAM]

That is wonderful news about your son.

Have a great time! I just got back from being in Asheville visiting family. I love that part of the country.

[ladyt]

Thank you all! I am soooo looking forward to going and relaxing.

[FaithHopeJoy]

LadyT

I am soooooo happy that some good and positive things are happening for you, and your son. It is surely a reward for your faith and your immense patience.

Praise God for His protection and His care

FHJ

[ladyt]

I told God forget how I feel, let His will be done.

[resecured]

With that attitude, me thinks you are going to have a fantastic time. Isn't unreal what happens when we let go, and let God?

Wish I could let go a little more myself these days. I think it's a good thing to go away on ones own a time or two. Just yourself and God.

Due for a breather myself.

You may get over there and not want to come back. That area tends to do that to ya.

-RJ-